how will out-of-date K40 turn out when processed?

**al77** · June 9th, 2003, 09:07 AM

Hello,
Does anyone know how will out-of-date K40 turn out when processed? If you've shot out-of-date film before i'd be interested to read how it turned out. Out-of-date K40 seems to be available through various sources on the net & i've ordered some to try out. Another thing- if you have process paid film that is out-of-date will the processing sill be honoured? I emailed kodak about this but haven't had a response yet.
Any comments appreciated. thanks,

**geospot66** · June 10th, 2003, 11:08 AM

If Your K40 film has been in frozen storage it should be alright, Up to 10-15 years, If You go to use frozen Filmstock let it come up to room temp within its sealed wrapper for at least 4 hours prior to opening the foil pouch to prevent condensation. How Your film has been handled/stored could be anyones guess, and as to how it will turn out? Color shifting, weird colors, loss of filmspeed & grainyness could be expected along with possably no image at all.
Buying outdated film of Questionable storage is risky at best no matter what the price. As far as the processing goes? As long as it is a Kodak PK-59 mailer it will be honoured. Your film will ultimatly end up in Switzerland for processing. How old is the filmstock You are asking about?
I am wondering if in the U.K. You can purchase fresh K40 without the processing and then use the mailers to have Your new film processed? Good Luck Neil Geo_

**al77** · June 10th, 2003, 06:56 PM

Hi , thanks for the reply.
Not sure how old the film is. I bought it from http://www.super8camera-shop.com/
They had some K40 expired around 1988/90 that i didn't buy & also the films that i did buy which were described as out-of-date but with no date on the carton!? (can't remember the exact wording as it has been removed from the site since i bought the last few films)
I can't remember if more recent K40 is still dated as i threw away my last carton. I got the idea that more recent K40 is no longer dated from somewhere, the widescreen centre's site i think, which made me think that the films i've bought must be more recent than 1990 at least.
Good idea about just using the mailers for processing. I bought 5 reels so i think i'll shoot 1 & see how it turns out. I can live with "Color shifting, weird colors, loss of filmspeed & grainyness" but if the film comes back with no image at all i'll take your advice & just use the mailers for new films.
thanks again.

**Levi** · June 11th, 2003, 04:25 PM

I shot some k40 from 1977, it came out purple and very, very light. I tried it again with a cartidge from the same batch but the next time I overexposed two stops and shot with the indoor filter on. It came out at normal exposure, and the filter helped a little, but it still had a purpleish-blue tint. I say stick with the new stuff. Unless it's been refridgerated, mine wasn't.
Good Luck
Corey Doyle

**theskull** · June 12th, 2003, 06:36 AM

Does anyone know what happens when you shoot K40 within the expiration date, but then wait 10 months before getting it developed?

**geospot66** · June 13th, 2003, 11:23 AM

Hey Skull!, 10 months should'nt really make a difference unless it has been stored in a terribly hot enviro. Whenever i shoot a roll or two and know it will be some time before processing, I just put the carts in a ziplock and refreeze them. Don't forget to label what is on the rolls and roll numbers as over time and more and more reels pile up in the freezer it gets easy to forget. It sometimes takes Me months to finish a compilation of shoots, then I send them all in at the same time for processing.
This will keep inconsistancies of color at projection time at a bare minimum

**Scott123** · June 17th, 2003, 11:44 PM

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when you mail your film out to be processed; do you have to pay for the shipping cost?? or is the mailer pre-paid postage??? because wouldnt shipping to switzerland be super expensive? like more expensive than the film???